It’s time to review the draft with Chris’s extra-special post-draft survey, one that we all really enjoyed. Chris didn’t enjoy it that much though as he’s not done the hard work part of typing these words out. I guess he just doesn’t really love the Dynabowl.
Anyway, first up we’ll have the average scores that people got for their drafts, then the comments, and finally we’ll have the details of the answers to the actual questions, featuring the only question you all really want to know the answer to – who has the best name…
Also, there will be a poll on MFL for the best player out of all those players voted best value.
One note, Max may or may not have responded. One respondent put their name down as “I might be Max” and in pretty much every textual question answered “I don’t know what happened in the draft.” I feel this is accurate so maybe it’s him, but I’m going to remove his ratings from everyone’s score for the draft.
So, who do we think had the best draft? Well, the raw points are worthless because we have a different amount of ratings for different people – a couple of people neglected to score a couple of other people, so it’s the average points that really count. So how did we stack up?
Well, Ben & Stew had the best draft, with a healthy gap back to Chris. There’s then a big drop off to Neil in third. I’m sure that this won’t be another false dawn.
Bringing up the rear are Benj in 8th, Slatz in 9th and James back in 10th. I’m sure James wasn’t penalised for flouting regulations during the season and this is a true view of the quality of his draft.
So here’s the table:
| Total Points | Scorers | Average Points | Max Score | Min Score | ||
| 1 | Ben & Stew | 59 | 8 | 7.38 | 8 | 6 |
| 2 | Chris | 50 | 7 | 7.14 | 9 | 5 |
| 3 | Neil | 49 | 8 | 6.13 | 9 | 3 |
| 4 | Geoff | 48 | 8 | 6.00 | 7 | 1 |
| 5 | Pete | 47 | 8 | 5.88 | 9 | 3 |
| 6 | Max | 52 | 9 | 5.78 | 7 | 3 |
| 7 | Ian | 42 | 8 | 5.25 | 8 | 1 |
| 8 | Benj | 36 | 8 | 4.50 | 6 | 2 |
| 9 | Slatz | 35 | 8 | 4.38 | 8 | 2 |
| 10 | James | 27 | 7 | 3.86 | 5 | 2 |
Now, onto what you thought. Let’s start at the top of the list.
1. Ben & Stew
Solid
I liked a lot of their early picks. There may be the beginnings of a decent offense there? I didn’t recognise any of their later picks so they’re probably really good
Decent job with a lot of picks, and early picks
A few of my guys picked up but all around when I had them valued. Nice draft but not too many steals
I don’t know what happened in the draft.
A solid effort, 7 on 10
Solid use of plenty of early round picks
I could genuinely see pretty much every player being useful. Not sure you ever need to draft 3 safeties in one year though.
Stew’s influence is obvious as this looks like a decent class.
2. Chris
Not bad
Not much here to not like. I don’t love trading away so much for an old TE though, especially the Derwin James piece.
I’m unfamiliar with any of those players so probably very canny on Chris’s part
What’s the phrase I’ve continually heard this draft cycle? This was all “chalk”, which I think (based on context) means he basically did everything he should with each pick – he was very much aligned with consensus. I like the first few picks but wasn’t interested in anyone he took late really.
I have completed your blood survey. I don’t know what happened in the draft.
I really liked my draft. I got guys I liked at good value throughout, and managed to trade for an elite
TE at a price that wasn’t totally eye-watering. Would have liked a starting LB out of it, but otherwise I’m happy with it.
Main positives are the value with the first 2 picks and the trades where he ripped off Max
Solid but unspectacular
3. Neil
Some okay picks around where I valued then
No real surprises, I think Neil picked the guys he was supposed to pick, when they were supposed to be picked
Can’t complain much about the first 3 picks but feels like he lost his way after that
I really hated the Jaycee Horn pick, but otherwise I think this is a pretty good draft. Most of them have starting potential, and even Horn could be vaguely worth it.
I don’t know what happened in the draft.
One of the best drafts, if we look past Neil’s CB obsession. I do not understand a) taking more when several are on the roster already or b) taking one as early as he took Horn.
I normally like Neil’s drafts. But Smith aside there’s a lot of guys who are just taken about where they should be who have question marks. I think that’s probably a reflection of a poor draft class.
A bit overdrafted across the board imo
Holy Moses, I’m Surtain we will Jaycee this team go Long
4. Geoff
A cornucopia of sadness
Solid early picks which given Mike picked them means they’re definitely going to break or be bad people
The draft rating is bearing in mind the draft capital he had. Wise to take Pitts first because at least half the league wanted him. Sermon is poor value but Lance is a good pick – arguably the best fantasy QB to go for in a 10 team league – QBs are plentiful so you want to draft one with the highest ceiling.
He must love to stay in Double-Trey Hotels. I like the Pitts and Waddle picks, two exciting prospects
I don’t know what happened in the draft.
A lot of reaches imo – Pitts, Lance, Waddle, Sermon, Collins. Mike usually is pretty active trading back, but he seems to have decided this year is the one he wouldn’t and just taken his guys where they came to him. But in reality he’s just taking everyone early.
I’m not a fan of Pitts at 1, but he was going in the top 3, so I guess if you want him you get him. I’d just rather have had Chase or Harris. I also think Sermon was a big reach at 11. But both guys have good upside and there’s a bunch of guys here that are similar. Feels like a lot of swings for the fences on boom/bust guys, but they seem like good swings.
A TE at one was a big shock to me but I know some others called it
Bog standard draft. Not too much ‘wow’ factor here
5. Pete
Efficient
Very few of my guys picked so this was a middling draft
Over half his draft picks I didn’t have ranked in my top 100
Some good value in the early rounds then went all d with exception of a random Shi Smith
I don’t know what happened in the draft.
An LB with the 13th pick takes some cahones
Getting Harris at 3 was very good for Pete. I think he was a bit early on Davis and Oweh, but they should be decent players. I feel like he took too many DEs, but don’t hate the players he took.
Pete: Strangely optimistic about this year’s picks.
Too many picks for not enough cap room.
6. Max
Let’s go Jags!
Some relatively solid picks and an amazing trade combined with an awful one
Hopefully set himself up at qb but has so many holes didn’t really fill them
I don’t know what happened in the draft.
This commenting stuff gets tricky after a few. Meh.
Pretty solid!
I liked his first 3 picks, although I think it ended up being that you could get a good DE way later, so Paye wasn’t great value. I know nothing about the two mid-round WRs.
I think Lawrence was taken too early and isn’t the best QB to go for in this draft. It’s a bit of a meh draft for me – fine, nothing special, not a disaster.
I think he did too much prep for this one
7. Ian
OMG
Very little value here
Made the most out of limited capital
He didn’t have a lot to work with, but I liked most of the picks. Picking a “worst value” was really difficult – even if Atwell is a bust, it’s not that much of a waste given where he was drafted. Most of the late round guys have a vague path towards being useful, so all in all a decent draft given the lack of picks.
He had nothing to work with and got very little for it.
I don’t know what happened in the draft.
For having limited early picks, there is a lot to like
Seems fine
8. Benj
Fall in love with guys and massively overdraft them. Check.
I don’t know what happened in the draft.
Could have just drafted 12 Mr Irrelevants
Another middling draft. Not much to get excited about but I like the Turner pick
Very different to my rankings, but being contrarian could work out well
I think I did ok. I got players I wanted and spammed the RB position in the hope that someone steps up. I was surprised that Brown was seen as such a reach – I’d seen plenty of mock drafts putting him around that area or within the next 4 or 5 picks (so not making it to me by my next pick) and of course we get no insight into who values which players where so I only really have a bunch of mocks to go on as to where he might fall to. Anyway, we’ll see.
Three a lot of darts at RB’s but no bullseye’s for me
I really liked Bolton, Bateman should be good, and Mitchell at his price was very good value. Brown was a bit of a reach but should be good. Of the picks after Mitchell though, I only liked Turner.
Steady away with limited early round picks
9. Slatz
Yes please
I don’t know anything about rhamondre Stevenson, so that colours this grade a bit. In a sense, I am grading my own ignorance.
I only value Nico Collins as a great pick here so that balances out some other poorer picks
I don’t like it at all. Lots of reaches for guys he obviously liked
Not my favourite draft, but too hard to say at this point if its good or bad
I like Collins, Hubbard and Hawkins but I don’t really fancy that this draft will off much long term. I’d be surprised if any get extended, punter aside of course.
I’m not a fan. Stevenson was a big reach, the WRs and RBs are all major dart throws on guys who mostly didn’t show much actual talent in college. He could easily have cut the entire class in 2 years.
I hate the Stevenson pick. I don’t understand taking him so early. Sure, the draft wasn’t great in depth but he’ll likely have 3 fantasy relevant games a year and you will never know which ones they will be.
I don’t know what happened in the draft.
10. James
Amazing
Huge focus on d but probably reached for a lot of guys. Still he’s got who he wanted I imagine
I don’t know what happened in the draft.
I like the Micah pick, but too WR light to get a top rating
He didn’t have much to work with, and Parsons was a good pick. Basham could be decent. I didn’t like Grant, and everyone else could easily be off rosters within a couple of years.
I don’t really like any of these players. Would be interesting to be able to rate what he traded the first for as well though, to see if he got good value for picks not used
Tough sledding with no early picks. Draft could only be defensive in nature, and we all hate defensive players
Mainly late round picks so hard to really assess their long term value
I don’t think he picked a single player I was remotely considering. A waste of a draft. Also, the trade would have scored much higher if he’d used the pick on someone worthwhile.
Onwards to the data!
Now then, rather than in ranked order, just normal league order, starting with Pete, here are the answers to each of the questions. I’m not listing every answer, anyone with only one vote is omitted for at least some semblance of brevity. Oh, and there were 10 voters on every question. Well done everyone.
Pete’s Draft
Who will be the best player?
RB Najee Harris (3) – 6
LB Jamin Davis (13) – 2
Who represents the best value?
WR Kadarius Toney (29) – 4
DE Gregory Rousseau (43) – 3
RB Najee Harris (3) – 2
Who was the worst value pick?
LB Jamin Davis (13) – 2
DE Jayson Oweh (23) – 2
WR D’Wayne Eskridge (33) – 2
Which top 30 pick is most likely to bust?
WR Kadarius Toney (29) – 5
RB Najee Harris (3) – 2
None of them – 2
Which pick in the 8th round or later is most likely to be useful?
CB Greg Newsome (118) – 6
WR Shi Smith (78) – 2
Ben & Stew’s Draft
Who will be the best player?
WR Ja’Marr Chase (2) – 9
QB Justin Fields (25) – 1 (alright, I said I wouldn’t do the single votes thing, but here, because there was only one, I thought you might like to see who checked in above Chase)
Who represents the best value?
WR Amon-Ra St Brown (32) – 2
WR Ja’Marr Chase (2) – 2
Who was the worst value pick?
WR Rondale Moore (12) – 4
DE Jaelan Phillips (22) – 3
Which top 30 pick is most likely to bust?
WR Rondale Moore (12) – 5
RB Travis Etiene (5) – 2
QB Justin Fields (25) – 2
Which pick in the 8th round or later is most likely to be useful?
S Trevon Moehrig (77) – 5
None of them – 2
James’s Draft
Who will be the best player?
LB Micah Parsons (15) – 7
Who represents the best value?
DE Carlos Basham (53) – 3
LB Derrick barnes (68) – 2
LB Micah Parsons (15) – 2
RB Chris Evans (49) – 2
Who was the worst value pick?
S Richie Grant (30) – 8
LB Micah Parsons (15) – 2
Which top 30 pick is most likely to bust?
S Richie Grant (30) – 5
Neither of them – 3
LB Micah Parsons (15) – 2
Which pick in the 8th round or later is most likely to be useful?
RB Jermar Jefferson (84) – 4
None of them – 3
The score for the following trade:
GIVE Jonnu Smith, GET Pick 3.10 (used for Richie Grant) was… 4.375/10, after I removed the 10 that James gave himself. Someone else gave it a 10 though. Crazy.
Is it weird that Chris called Goody ‘James’ throughout?
Yes – 8
No – 2
Geoff’s Draft
Who will be the best player?
TE Kyle Pitts (1) – 7
WR Jaylen Waddle (6) – 3
Who represents the best value?
LB Zaven Collins (21) – 2
RB Trey Surman (11) – 2
WR Jaylen Waddle (6) – 2
Who was the worst value pick?
TE Kyle Pitts (1) – 3
RB Trey Surmon (11) – 3
QB Trey Lance (19) – 2
Which top 30 pick is most likely to bust?
RB Trey Surman (11) – 5
None of them – 2
Which pick in the 8th round or later is most likely to be useful?
S Divine Deablo (116) – 4
CB Caleb Farley (86) – 2
WR Cornell Powell (76) – 2
None of them – 2
Slatz’s Draft
Who will be the best player?
WR Nico Collins (26) – 5
RB Rhamondre Stevenson (18) – 2
WR Anthony Schwartz (38) – 2
Who represents the best value?
WR Nico Collins (26) – 3
WR Anthony Schwartz (38) – 2
RB Rhamondre Stevenson (18) – 2
QB Davis Mills (111) – 2
Who was the worst value pick?
RB Rhamondre Stevenson (18) – 8
Which top 30 pick is most likely to bust?
RB Rhamondre Stevenson (18) – 9
WR Nico Collins (26) – 1
Which pick in the 8th round or later is most likely to be useful?
QB Davis Mills (111) – 3
P Pressley Harvin (121) – 2
WR Ihmir Smith-Marsette (81) – 2
None of them – 2
Neil’s Draft
(Neil didn’t provide ratings for any of his picks so there are only 9 votes in play)
Who will be the best player?
WR Devonta Smith (4) – 6
LB Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah (24) – 2
Who represents the best value?
DE Joseph Ossai (56) – 3
LB Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah (24) – 2
Who was the worst value pick?
CB Jaycee Horn (37) – 5
DT Christian Barmore (28) – 2
WR Devonta Smith (4) – 2
Which top 30 pick is most likely to bust?
DT Christian Barmore (28) – 4
RB Michael Carter (14) – 4
Which pick in the 8th round or later is most likely to be useful?
CB Patrick Surtain (79) – 5
WR Simi Fehoko (109) – 3
Benj’s Draft
Who will be the best player?
WR Rashod Bateman (7) – 6
LB Nick Bolton (27) – 2
Who represents the best value?
RB Kylin Hill (59) – 2
RB Elijah Mitchell (57) – 2
DE Payton Turner (70) – 2
(As an aside, it’s quite nice to see 7 different players get picked here)
Who was the worst value pick?
WR Dyami Brown (17) – 5
WR Rashod Bateman (7) – 3
Which top 30 pick is most likely to bust?
WR Rashod Bateman (7) – 4
WR Dyami Brown (17) – 3
None of them – 3
Which pick in the 8th round or later is most likely to be useful?
RB Jake Funk (82) – 5
None of them – 4
Max’s Draft
Who will be the best player?
QB Trevor Lawrence (10) – 7
Who represents the best value?
DE Kwity Paye (20) – 2
WR Terrace Marshall (9) – 2
S Andre Cisco (105) – 2
Who was the worst value pick?
DE Kwity Paye (20) – 3
WR Terrace Marshall (9) – 2
QB Trevor Lawrence (10) – 2
Which top 30 pick is most likely to bust?
None of them – 5
WR Terrace Marshall (9) – 4
Which pick in the 8th round or later is most likely to be useful?
S Andre Cisco (105) – 4
LB Baron Browning (95) – 3
The score for the following trade:
GIVE: Travis Kelce, Pick 4.10; GET: Henry Ruggs, Derwin James, Pick 1.09 (used on Terrace Marshall) was… 4.67/10
The score for the following trade:
GIVE: Pick 3.10; GET: Jonnu Smith was… 6.56/10
Ian’s Draft
Who will be the best player?
LB Pete Werner (35) – 4
TE Pat Friermuth (45) – 3
WR Tutu Atwell (39) – 2 (so someone other than Chris voted for him)
Who represents the best value?
LB Pete Werner (35) – 3
TE Pat Friermuth (45) – 3
RB Kenneth Gainwell (47) – 3
Who was the worst value pick?
WR Tutu Atwell (39) – 5
LB Pete Werner (35) – 3
TE Pat Friermuth (45) – 2
Ian had no picks in the first 3 rounds. He traded a 1st and 3rd (and potentially another 2nd or 3rd) for Allen Robinson. He also traded a 2nd for Zach Ertz. Which of these trades was horrifically bad?
TE Zach Ertz for a 2nd – 10
Which pick in the 8th round or later is most likely to be useful?
WR Dez Fitzpatrick (80) – 3
TE Brevin Jordan (90) – 2
Chris’s Draft
Who will be the best player?
RB Javonte Williams (8) – 5
WR Elijah Moore (16) – 4
Who represents the best value?
WR Elijah Moore (16) – 5
RB Javonte Williams (8) – 2
Who was the worst value pick?
RB Javonte Williams (8) – 2
LB Chazz Surratt (60) – 2
DT Milton Williams (75) – 2
Which top 30 pick is most likely to bust?
None of them – 7
RB Javonte Williams (8) – 3
Which pick in the 8th round or later is most likely to be useful?
TE Tommy Tremble (83) – 3
S Jevon Holland (93) – 3
WR Seth Williams (113) – 3
Who has the best name in the draft?
Racey McMath – 4
Divine Deablo – 4
Chuba Hubbard – 1
Amon-Ra St Brown – 1 (Maybe Max?)
Who gave the best pick comment?
“All aboard the Toney Train! Fat Controller: Dave Gettleman. Conductor: Jason Garrett. DRIVER: the Young Joka himself, Two Shoes Toney. Choo Choo!” (Pete on Kadarius Toney) – 5 votes
“Don’t Look Back in Hufanga.” (Ben and Stew on Hufanga Talanoa) – 2 votes
“Now I can cut Andy Dalton to make sure both my QBs have first names for last names.” (Max on Trevor Lawrence) – 2 votes (one of these votes was maybe from Max though)
“In the 2nd round, if you’re not hitting Paye-dirt, you may as well Kwity.” (Max on Kwity Paye) – 1 vote
Pete picked fastest, at 17 minutes per pick. What should his reward be?
200$ extra cap room
A weekend away at Neil’s for him to take over Neil’s 2022 draft
The nickname “Pistol Pete” for the season
He should be punished for not writing pick comments.
Slow clap
To work out if he was really fastest if auto picks are included
He gets the only playoff spot for Peter each season.
Something nice, like a better team
Bonus pick next year
A turducken
Neil picked slowest, at 6 hours per pick. What should his punishment be?
A chiduckey
He gets moved to Peter.
Bonus pick next year
Punishment? Should get an award for having to listen to the moaning!
He should have a baby to keep him awake all night
Not allowed to watch any Chiefs games this year; only Steelers
Being forced to have a really busy job and a new-born child. Oh, wait.
Banned from all future drafts
A weekend with Pete to help him with the 2022 draft
The nickname “Andrew Neil” for the season
The draft took 10 days. Is that…?
Too long – 6
About right – 3
Too short – 1 (this may have been Max)
Any last words?
Thoroughly enjoyable
Great draft, very enjoyable. Now that I’ve stopped watching the actual football, definitely the highlight of the year. Wait, did I say that out loud?
It feels like the worst draft class we’ve had so not many picks felt like good value
Really enjoyed my first rookie draft!
Nope
I don’t know what happened in the draft.
