What’s A Pick Really Worth? (The Offence)

After reading Ian’s piece, and the discussion following it, it occurred to me that one of the things we’ve all be struggling with is understanding what the baseline for success for a #1 or #6 etc pick looks like. Last year’s rookie class was headlined by guys like Odell Beckham Jr and Mike Evans, who both look like bargains, but what about in normal or quiet years. How good does a QB or DE have to be to justify a #1 pick, compared to say an RB or WR? That’s what I’m going to attempt to answer.

To do this I’m going to use a method that fits with the rules of the league, and specifically those around extensions. For anyone not aware (if only there were rules somewhere to refer to), extensions are priced based on the best single season ranking a player achieves over a three year period, and that is then compared to the salary rankings for the same position. This is done over bands of rankings, rather than individual positions. For the purposes of working out what a rookie should produce over his contract I’ve done something similar but in reverse, taking the guaranteed contract value and comparing where it would rank among the salaries we pay. I’ve then looked what players ranked at that position (on performance, not salary) produced. As a final step, I’ve also looked at the performance of players over the last 20 years at each position over the first four years of their careers to give an idea of real players who’s performances they’d be hoping to mirror over the lifetime of their rookie contract. Because each position has a different range of salaries, this is done on a position-by-position basis, but I’ve excluded kickers and punters, because a $20/4 year commitment doesn’t have a comparator for a punter.

One last thing, before someone says it, but this ignores the opportunity cost of signing a QB who goes on to be a franchise QB for three reasons. Firstly, that’s very difficult to quantify and I don’t want to try. Secondly, the player would need to be extended, or would go through a UFA / RFA period that would reset their value closer to the market value. Thirdly, there’s always players, like Marshawn Lynch, who take time and the right situation to become a top player, it’s highly unlikely anyone sitting on Lynch during his disappointing Buffalo and early Seattle days would have kept the player on his rookie deal and probably would have cut him or let him hit UFA long before he became the top five back he is now. But mostly it’s difficult and I can’t be bothered.

Clear? Probably not, but hopefully it’ll become clearer as we get started…

Quarterbacks

Pick Contract Rank Actual Performers Average Comparisons (first 4 years ave points)
1.01
1.02
1.03
$20, 4 years
$19, 4 years
$18, 4 years
11 2012
2013
2014
Matthew Stafford
Tony Romo
Tony Romo
275.58
260.92
266.30
267.6 Cam Newton (330.71)
Andrew Luck (319.03)
Russell Wilson (309.33)
Jeff Garcia (268.72)
Peyton Manning (262.33)
Ryan Tannehill (258.23)
Andy Dalton (254.08)
Matt Ryan (235.21)
1.04 $17, 4 years 12 2012
2013
2014
Andy Dalton
Nick Foles
Philip Rivers
250.76
260.14
265.64
258.8 Cam Newton (330.71)
Andrew Luck (319.03)
Russell Wilson (309.33)
Jeff Garcia (268.72)
Peyton Manning (262.33)
Ryan Tannehill (258.23)
Andy Dalton (254.08)
Matt Ryan (235.21)
Carson Palmer (232.44)
1.05 $16, 4 years 13 2012
2013
2014
Josh Freeman
Alex Smith
Joe Flacco
248.50
253.22
262.44
254.7 Andrew Luck (319.03)
Russell Wilson (309.33)
Jeff Garcia (268.72)
Peyton Manning (262.33)
Ryan Tannehill (258.23)
Andy Dalton (254.08)
Matt Ryan (235.21)
Carson Palmer (232.44)
Donovan McNabb (229.20)
1.06
1.07
$15, 4 years
$14, 4 years
14 2012
2013
2014
Joe Flacco
Tom Brady
Jay Cutler
234.88
252.32
255.58
247.6 Russell Wilson (309.33)
Jeff Garcia (268.72)
Peyton Manning (262.33)
Ryan Tannehill (258.23)
Andy Dalton (254.08)
1.08
1.09
$13, 4 years
$12, 4 years
15 2012
2013
2014
Eli Manning
Matt Ryan
Matthew Stafford
232.92
248.10
251.58
244.2 Matt Ryan (235.21)
Carson Palmer (232.44)
Donovan McNabb (229.20)
Aaron Brooks (221.82)
1.10 $11, 4 years 16 2012
2013
2014
Sam Bradford
Ryan Tannehill
Colin Kaepernick
230.78
238.32
250.66
239.9 Russell Wilson (309.33)
Jeff Garcia (268.72)
Peyton Manning (262.33)
Ryan Tannehill (258.23)
Andy Dalton (254.08)
Matt Ryan (235.21)
Carson Palmer (232.44)
Donovan McNabb (229.20)
Aaron Brooks (221.82)
2.01
2.02
2.03
2.042.05
2.06
2.07
$10, 3-4 years
$10, 3-4 years
$10, 3-4 years
$10, 3-4 years$9, 3-4 years
$9, 3-4 years
$9, 3-4 years
18 2012
2013
2014
Carson Palmer
Robert Griffin III
Andy Dalton
224.32
213.02
224.62
220.7 Andy Dalton (254.08)
Matt Ryan (235.21)
Carson Palmer (232.44)
Donovan McNabb (229.20)
Aaron Brooks (221.82)
Joe Flacco (221.19)
Robert Griffin III (217.93)
Ben Roethlisberger (215.73)
Daunte Culpepper (211.55)
2.08
2.092.10
$8, 3-4 years
$8, 3-4 years$7, 3-4 years
19 2012
2013
2014
Matt Schaub
Joe Flacco
Alex Smith
222.82
207.58
220.00
216.8 Matt Ryan (235.21)
Carson Palmer (232.44)
Donovan McNabb (229.20)
Aaron Brooks (221.82)
Joe Flacco (221.19)
Robert Griffin III (217.93)
Ben Roethlisberger (215.73)
Daunte Culpepper (211.55)
Matthew Stafford (210.10)

So, if you’re looking at spending a top 3 pick on a QB, you’d be paying the 11th highest QB salary in the Dynabowl. And for that over the last three years you’d be looking at a 1/3rd Matthew Stafford, 2/3rds Tony Romo hybrid who averages 267.6 points per season. This isn’t impossible for a rookie QB – Luck, Newton and Wilson have achieved much more than that, but you are talking about the player having to be a legitimately good NFL starting QB for each season of their deal. At the lower end Ryan, Tannehill and Dalton wouldn’t quite have justified the contract, but they still put together reasonably good performances over their rookie deals. Garcia and Manning are a bit older, and they highlight the way the league has changed with the best week one rookie starters now scoring 50+ points more per season. With Mariota and Winston, my previous mock draft made them late round one selections. To justify that sort of pick they’d need to be Dalton / Tannehill level talents over their rookie contracts, and it’s not unreasonable to see them hitting that sort of level.

One thing that is clear, a rookie quarterback is going to struggle to fill a roster spot, as even the best Quarterbacks through their first four years will struggle to be a top 10 position player.

Running Backs

Pick Contract Rank Actual Performers Average Comparisons (first 4 years ave points)
1.01 $20, 4 years 23 2012
2013
2014
DeAngelo Williams
Pierre Thomas
Knile Davis
130.40
134.50
125.73
130.2 Reggie Bush (132.95)
Ryan Grant (131.88)
Terry Kirby (131.50)
Jamal Anderson (130.57)
Kevan Barlow (130.38)
Doug Martin (129.53)
Julius Jones (129.40)
Andre Ellington (128.90)
Jamaal Charles (126.83)
1.02
1.03
1.04
1.05
$19, 4 years
$18, 4 years
$17, 4 years
$16, 4 years
24 2012
2013
2014
Danny Woodhead
LeGarrette Blount
Fred Jackson
117.78
131.35
122.85
124.0 Andre Ellington (128.90)
Jamaal Charles (126.83)
Anthony Thomas (126.03)
Andre Williams (125.10)
Brandon Jacobs (124.48)
Napoleon Kaufman (123.95)
CJ Spiller (122.28)
Shonn Greene (121.13)
Tiki Barber (120.90)
1.06 $15, 4 years 25 2012
2013
2014
Vic Ballard
Andre Ellington
Steven Jackson
114.60
126.83
121.50
121.0 Andre Williams (125.10)
Brandon Jacobs (124.48)
Napoleon Kaufman (123.95)
CJ Spiller (122.28)
Shonn Greene (121.13)
Tiki Barber (120.90)
Darren McFadden (120.28)
Mike Anderson (119.58)
Michael Bush (119.53)
1.07
1.08
$14, 4 years
$13, 4 years
28 2012
2013
2014
DeMarco Murray
CJ Spiller
Ahmed Bradshaw
111.40
121.20
116.50
116.4 Darren McFadden (120.28)
Mike Anderson (119.58)
Michael Bush (119.53)
Tre Mason (119.30)
Bam Morris (118.13)
Fred Jackson (116.33)
Isaiah Crowell (115.40)
Garrison Hearst (113.55)
Antowain Smith (112.30)
1.09 $12, 4 years 29 2012
2013
2014
Darren McFadden
Ray Rice
Shane Vereen
110.50
120.10
113.80
114.8 Michael Bush (119.53)
Tre Mason (119.30)
Bam Morris (118.13)
Fred Jackson (116.33)
Isaiah Crowell (115.40)
Garrison Hearst (113.55)
Antowain Smith (112.30)
Knowshon Moreno (110.58)
Branden Oliver (109.30)
1.10 $11, 4 years 31 2012
2013
2014
Jacquizz Rodgers
Stevan Ridley
Branden Oliver
103.20
117.50
109.85
110.2 Fred Jackson (116.33)
Isaiah Crowell (115.40)
Garrison Hearst (113.55)
Antowain Smith (112.30)
Knowshon Moreno (110.58)
Branden Oliver (109.30)
Duce Staley (109.00)
Michael Bennett (108.43
Kevin Smith (108.38)
2.01
2.02
2.03
2.04
$10, 3-4 years
$10, 3-4 years
$10, 3-4 years
$10, 3-4 years
35 2012
2013
2014
Pierre Thomas
Trent Richardson
Chris Johnson
96.98
109.90
91.40
99.4 Beanie Wells (101.50)
Laurence Maroney (101.48)
Raymont Harris (100.53)
Terrance West (99.70)
Errict Rhett (99.43)
Ahmad Bradshaw (99.30)
Rudi Johnson (98.05)
Mario Bates (97.83)
Robert Green (97.60)
2.05
2.06
2.07
$9, 3-4 years
$9, 3-4 years
$9, 3-4 years
38 2012
2013
2014
Mike Tolbert
Chris Ivory
LeGarrette Blount
87.75
102.30
90.68
93.6 LeGarrette Blount (96.83)
LenDale White (96.33)
Mark Ingram (95.88)
Mike Tolbert (95.55)
DeShaun Foster (93.90)
Robert Smith (91.90)
Derrick Moore (91.20)
C.J. Anderson (90.55)
Steve Slaton (90.10)
2.08
2.09
$8, 3-4 years
$8, 3-4 years
39 2012
2013
2014
Bryce Brown
Bobby Rainey
Denard Robinson
83.90
99.25
90.60
91.3 LenDale White (96.33)
Mark Ingram (95.88)
Mike Tolbert (95.55)
DeShaun Foster (93.90)
Robert Smith (91.90)
Derrick Moore (91.20)
C.J. Anderson (90.55)
Steve Slaton (90.10)
Wali Lundy (90.00)
2.10 $7, 3-4 years 42 2012
2013
2014
Fred Jackson
Shane Vereen
Bobby Rainey
81.40
89.15
84.80
85.1 Natrone Means (86.40)
Cadillac Williams (86.35)
Jerious Norwood (86.30)
Alfred Blue (86.10)
Correll Buckhalter (85.30)
Chris Brown (84.85)
Cedric Benson (84.63)
Ben Tate (84.25)
Marcel Shipp (83.68)

Much like quarterbacks the running backs don’t get starting money, but a top pick is paid at the level of a viable flex pick. By the end of the second round you’re basically already into back ups, fliers and handcuff territory with comparison players like Ben Tate or Alfred Blue. Branden Oliver who values out in comparison as a late first round $11 dollar sort of player has just been picked up on free agency for $14.

One noticeable difference from quarterbacks is the difference in quality of comparison players. A $20 dollar QB compares to guys who have put up the best first four years of any QB over the past two decades. By comparison the elite running backs are nowhere near the comparison level, so guys like Adrian Peterson, Ladanian Tomlinson or Le’Veon Bell would represent absolute steals even over their rookie contracts. 267.6 points per season is the 5th best points total over for a QB in their first four seasons in the last 20 years, while 130.2 would only be the 62nd best by a running back.

No doubt with the depth and talent of the running back pool in the 2015 draft, there is a lot of value to be had in this area, and players like Gurley and Gordon who come with big reputations could prove to be cheap cornerstones for their teams for their whole rookie terms, even if they were picked #1 overall.

Paying $11 for 4 years for Kevin Smith is still a waste, but it’s considerably less painful than what Detroit paid him.

Before we go on to receivers, let’s pause for a second and appreciate the parents who named their child Napoleon Kaufman.

Wide Receivers

Pick Contract Rank Actual Performers Average Comparisons (first 4 years ave points)
1.01 $20, 4 years 23 2012
2013
2014
Cecil Shorts
Torrey Smith
Brandon LaFell
137.50
138.80
136.60
137.6 Greg Jennings (141.00)
Alshon Jeffery (140.63)
Dwayne Bowe (140.30)
Lee Evans (139.25)
Brandon Marshall (138.08)
Bert Emanuel (137.03)
Torrey Smith (135.48)
Jordan Matthews (135.20)
Demaryius Thomas (134.10)
1.02 $19, 4 years 24 2012
2013
2014
Torrey Smith
Marvin Jones
AJ Green
134.40
137.70
136.30
136.1 Alshon Jeffery (140.63)
Dwayne Bowe (140.30)
Lee Evans (139.25)
Brandon Marshall (138.08)
Bert Emanuel (137.03)
Torrey Smith (135.48)
Jordan Matthews (135.20)
Demaryius Thomas (134.10)
Darrell Jackson (133.93)
1.03 $18, 4 years 25 2012
2013
2014
Mike Wallace
Riley Cooper
Jordan Matthews
130.30
137.20
135.20
134.2 Lee Evans (139.25)
Brandon Marshall (138.08)
Bert Emanuel (137.03)
Torrey Smith (135.48)
Jordan Matthews (135.20)
Demaryius Thomas (134.10)
Darrell Jackson (133.93)
Percy Harvin (133.63)
Sammy Watkins (133.00)
1.04 $17, 4 years 26 2012
2013
2014
Miles Austin
Riley Cooper
Sammy Watkins
128.30
135.40
133.00
132.2 Darrell Jackson (133.93)
Percy Harvin (133.63)
Sammy Watkins (133.00)
Hakeem Nicks (132.85)
Chris Chambers (131.15)
Roy Williams (130.90)
O.J. McDuffie (130.50)
Terrell Owens (129.83)
1.05 $16, 4 years 28 2012
2013
2014
Justin Blackmon
Brian Hartline
Jarvis Landry
120.80
125.60
131.45
132.2 O.J. McDuffie (130.50)
Terrell Owens (129.83)
Braylon Edwards (129.63)
Laveranues Coles (126.68)
Victor Cruz (124.73)
Jeremy Maclin (124.58)
Andre Johnson (123.98)
Eric Decker (123.78)
1.06 $15, 4 years 29 2012
2013
2014
Percy Harvin
Marquis Colston
Eric Decker
119.65
124.30
126.20
123.4 Jeremy Maclin (124.58)
Andre Johnson (123.98)
Eric Decker (123.78)
DeAndre Hopkins (123.60)
Keenan Allen (123.45)
Santonio Holmes (123.00)
Josh Gordon (122.73)
Jimmy Smith (121.87)
1.07 $14, 4 years 31 2012
2013
2014
Anquan Boldin
Emmanuel Sanders
Mohammed Sanu
118.40
121.20
123.26
121.0 Keenan Allen (123.45)
Santonio Holmes (123.00)
Josh Gordon (122.73)
Jimmy Smith (121.87)
David Boston (120.80)
Johnnie Morton (119.40)
Kevin Johnson (117.73)
Randall Cobb (116.53)
1.08
1.09
$13, 4 years
$12, 4 years
33 2012
2013
2014
Denarius Moore
Jericho Cotchery
Michael Floyd
117.20
119.70
118.30
118.4 Josh Gordon (122.73)
Jimmy Smith (121.87)
David Boston (120.80)
Johnnie Morton (119.40)
Kevin Johnson (117.73)
Randall Cobb (116.53)
Peerless Price (115.78)
1.10 $11, 4 years 34 2012
2013
2014
Golden Tate
Ted Ginn Jr
Marquis Colston
115.72
119.18
118.20
117.7 Jimmy Smith (121.87)
David Boston (120.80)
Johnnie Morton (119.40)
Kevin Johnson (117.73)
Randall Cobb (116.53)
Peerless Price (115.78)
Michael Crabtree (114.98)
2.01
2.02
2.03
2.04
$10, 3-4 years
$10, 3-4 years
$10, 3-4 years
$10, 3-4 years
39 2012
2013
2014
Malcolm Floyd
Dexter McCluster
Kendal Wright
111.40
109.98
110.90
110.8 Wayne Chrebet (112.95)
Derrick Alexander (112.43)
Darnay Scott (112.40)
Antonio Brown (111.75)
Reggie Wayne (111.13)
Plaxico Burress (109.98)
Roddy White (109.75)
Terry Glenn (109.58)
Mike Williams (109.25)
2.05
2.06
2.07
$9, 3-4 years
$9, 3-4 years
$9, 3-4 years
43 2012
2013
2014
Jeremy Kerley
Terrance Williams
Doug Baldwin
107.58
105.55
108.43
107.2 Roddy White (109.75)
Terry Glenn (109.58)
Mike Williams (109.25)
Rod Gardner (108.03)
Oronde Gadsden (107.40)
Michael Floyd (105.53)
Terrance Williams (105.05)
Kendall Wright (104.60)
Donte’ Stallworth (104.38)
2.08
2.09
$8, 3-4 years
$8, 3-4 years
44 2012
2013
2014
Santana Moss
Greg Jennings
Andre Johnson
104.70
104.40
105.60
104.9 Mike Williams (109.25)
Rod Gardner (108.03)
Oronde Gadsden (107.40)
Michael Floyd (105.53)
Terrance Williams (105.05)
Kendall Wright (104.60)
Donte’ Stallworth (104.38)
Allen Hurns (103.70)
Peter Warrick (103.13)
2.10 $7, 3-4 years 45 2012
2013
2014
Chris Givens
Denarius Moore
Martavis Bryant
104.48
99.50
104.10
102.7 Kendall Wright (104.60)
Donte’ Stallworth (104.38)
Allen Hurns (103.70)
Peter Warrick (103.13)
Rod Smith (103.05)
Kenny Stills (102.00)
Marty Booker (101.60)
John Brown (101.00)
Eric Moulds (100.98)

Much like with running backs wide receiver rookie salaries aren’t significant, however a top pick should be expected to produce at least WR3 numbers, dropping to flex numbers around the 7th pick to the middle of the second round and situational or bench numbers in the late second round. Also like running backs, there’s a pretty wide margin for players to represent real value. A $20 receiver would have been the 23rd best paid player at the position and to score 138 points per year over their contract. The best rookie receiver of the past 20 years is Randy Moss, who put up 213 points per game and 138 points puts you at around the 32nd best rookie over that period (when you think about it, that means picking the best receiver in the draft is an almost guaranteed value pick).

Where you do see a difference between receivers and running backs is in long term value. There’s some very good names who haven’t scored great through their early seasons, well enough to justify their contracts, but not brilliantly but have kicked on in later seasons, or when their situations have improved. Demaryius Thomas, or Brandon Marshall stand out from the top picks who did well rather than exceptionally in those early years, but developed to become top 10 guys. It’s certainly not a stretch to see Cooper or White justifying the top money, and the later first round picks in the NFL draft should all more than justify consideration anywhere in the first couple of rounds.

Tight End

Pick Contract Rank Actual Performers Average Comparisons (first 4 years ave points)
1.01
1.02
$20, 4 years
$19, 4 years
6 2012
2013
2014
Greg Olsen
Jason Witten
Coby Fleener
114.30
133.10
125.40
124.3 Rob Gronkowski (144.93)
Antonio Gates (135.53)
Tony Gonzalez (110.53)
Chris Cooley (105.20)
Aaron Hernandez (104.43)
1.03 $18, 4 years 7 2012
2013
2014
Dennis Pitta
Charles Clay
Julius Thomas
108.90
119.98
120.90
116.6 Rob Gronkowski (144.93)
Antonio Gates (135.53)
Tony Gonzalez (110.53)
Chris Cooley (105.20)
Aaron Hernandez (104.43)
1.04
1.05
$17, 4 years
$16, 4 years
8 2012
2013
2014
Owen Daniels
Greg Olsen
Delanie Walker
107.60
117.60
113.00
112.7 Rob Gronkowski (144.93)
Antonio Gates (135.53)
Tony Gonzalez (110.53)
Chris Cooley (105.20)
Aaron Hernandez (104.43)
1.06 $15, 4 years 9 2012
2013
2014
Kyle Rudolph
Antonio Gates
Travis Kelce
105.33
107.20
110.20
107.6 Rob Gronkowski (144.93)
Antonio Gates (135.53)
Tony Gonzalez (110.53)
Chris Cooley (105.20)
Aaron Hernandez (104.43)
Jeremy Shockey (98.15)
1.07
1.08
1.09
$14, 4 years
$13, 4 years
$12, 4 years
11 2012
2013
2014
Jermaine Gresham
Jared Cook
Heath Miller
101.70
95.10
94.10
97.0 Tony Gonzalez (110.53)
Chris Cooley (105.20)
Aaron Hernandez (104.43)
Jeremy Shockey (98.15)
Rickey Dudley (93.38)
Jason Witten (90.95)
Zach Miller (86.80)
1.102.01
2.02
2.03
2.04
$11, 4 years$10, 3-4 years
$10, 3-4 years
$10, 3-4 years
$10, 3-4 years
12 2012
2013
2014
Antonio Gates
Delanie Walker
Larry Donnell
95.80
93.10
90.30
93.1 Chris Cooley (105.20)
Aaron Hernandez (104.43)
Jeremy Shockey (98.15)
Rickey Dudley (93.38)
Jason Witten (90.95)
Zach Miller (86.80)
Dustin Keller (86.15)
2.05
2.06
2.07
$9, 3-4 years
$9, 3-4 years
$9, 3-4 years
13 2012
2013
2014
Martellus Bennett
Coby Fleener
Dwayne Allen
92.93
88.80
87.50
89.7 Chris Cooley (105.20)
Aaron Hernandez (104.43)
Jeremy Shockey (98.15)
Rickey Dudley (93.38)
Jason Witten (90.95)
Zach Miller (86.80)
Dustin Keller (86.15)
2.08
2.09
$8, 3-4 years
$8, 3-4 years
14 2012
2013
2014
Scott Chandler
Tim Wright
Zach Ertz
91.10
87.30
86.20
88.2 Chris Cooley (105.20)
Aaron Hernandez (104.43)
Jeremy Shockey (98.15)
Rickey Dudley (93.38)
Jason Witten (90.95)
Zach Miller (86.80)
Dustin Keller (86.15)
2.10 $7, 3-4 years 15 2012
2013
2014
Vernon Davis
Brent Celek
Jared Cook
84.80
84.20
81.40
83.5 Zach Miller (86.80)
Dustin Keller (86.15)
Vernon Davis (85.33)
Randy McMichael (83.65)
Owen Daniels (82.53)
Jermaine Gresham (81.55)
Heath Miller (80.80)
Freddie Jones (80.08)

A $20 tight end is a starter, and any pick in the top 6 would need to be a potential starter, but it is possible for a tight end to achieve the performance level required. That said, that level is high – Aaron Hernandez, Antonio Gates, Rob Gronkowski, Tony Gonzalez. These are (or were in the case of Hernandez) elite players at the position. It’s unlikely a tight end would be taken so high, but even a tight end in the second round would need to be a flex option (not necessarily a used one) for their team, and a solid bench player to justify the contract. However, the level of points scored and the comparisons show that a solid bench player basically only requires a player who lands in a good situation with a half decent quarter back. As long as those two things are in place, then a tight end is a viable late first or second round pick with a reasonable upside. There is not, however, the same sort of opportunity to hit gold that you can with a receiver or running back and while the bar for success isn’t as high as it is for a quarterback, the potential return is not as good either.

David Slater

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